Posts by johnny cip

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The Governing Body is made up of whom?

by Jourles in

any (ex)elders out there care to ellaborate on this?

*** w94 1/15 pp.

16-17 shepherds and sheep in a theocracy ***.

johnny cip

as far as light goes: i prefer BUD LITE. JOURLES again you are correct. when you bring out such wt statments to jw's they .JUST STAND THERE LIKE WT ZOMBIES. but i never knew that zombies could make such wierd expressions with their faces when , confronted with what their god printed from bklyn....john

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P.O ELDER AMD M.S GET A RETURN VISIT TODAY

by johnny cip in

jw
friends

ok today at work i drive past the kh on 174st and longfellow ave. bx n.y. it's about 10 a.m. and the spanish cong is filling in for a meeting.

well i stop and ask your some wt's.

well the elder runs from the gate and gets all the sisters in side.

johnny cip

ok today at work i drive past the kh on 174st and longfellow ave. bx n.y. It's about 10 a.m. and the spanish cong is filling in for a meeting. well i stop and ask your some wt's. well the elder runs from the gate and gets all the sisters in side. so he says that he has talked to me before. why did i stop? i asked well when we talked a couple of times before, has he did any research on the questions i asked, and i'm still waiting for a study with him. you got my number. i think he is going to run inside. but he doesn't and 3 young brothers in their 20's are listening. well i go right back into 1919 did you prove yet that jesus choose the wt then. i name most every wt false teaching and hit him with it . well his only response in 25-30 minutes was well they made MISTAKES. . BUT I HELD HIM to but was these false teachings worship acceptable to god. as the wt says today in 2003. i'm having him look like a fool infront of the younger bros. he can't answer a thing . i turn my attention to the younger brothers . so this is your spritual holy sprit apointed shepard. you should be ashamed of your selves for following this MAN who can't even back up why he is sending you young man into fs. and not out to a job. i question the elder so much he never even got out of the box. i was very happy to let these young men see that their p.o . truely had nothing. i asked for a time slip so i could mail it in . and also went into the blood and wine as it is memorail season . so the elder finally asked me if i only beat on jw's and i said that i beat on other cults and follow the wt teaching to expose false religions. just like it says in the wt. and i pointed to all the building around that he sends jw's out to tell others that they follow a false religion. i told them that it is my duty as a christian to do this. and i am planting seeds that may take weeks months or years to grow . but it is up to you if you want to follow men in brooklyn or god. there was much more but i'll leave it at that...john

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Can i get Watchtower library 1999 for research anywhere

by thetruthaboutjws in

is there anywhere i can download watchtower 99 or any version for that matter for research.

johnny cip

see i'm a computer dummy, but if someone wants to show me were i can find the wt cd's or even better the 1920's-50's wt that i can down load. i would love it . i want to order all the wt cd's i see on freeminds, and the golden age cd , but what's the point. in spending 3-$ 500 jw's can't last 10 minutes with me . as it is. now it takes me months to find a new treasure. most of the time by accident. by the way i send another jw running today after a few questions about the u.n. it lasted 3 minutes. then she wanted to talk from 100 feet away . i said come back and we will talk. but i got 2 wt's i don't have so maybe i'll read them . and join blondie in the wt study next week...john

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Mar 3/03 Book Study - Intellectual dishonesty, or outright lie?

by artful in

however, while reading through the wts book study information for the week of march 3/2003, i came across a historical claim regarding the wts and its announcing of 1914 as the year of christs' presence in kingly power.

answer (according to the information given in paragraph 14): jehovah has become king since christ's kingly presence began in 1914. the cry that god (via christ) had become king in 1914 has been announced to mankind by the watch tower society since 1919.

*** the watchtower, march 1, 1923, p. 67 ***.

johnny cip

latte: it was the book or booklet from 1935, either it's the enemy book or the universal war book or booklet. i did not take notes or print it. it was on a site that i got off one of the posts here in the last 2 weeks . it said, and this is not an exact quote. " the great cadaclysm is only months away. it did not come out and say it was arnageddom, but it sure sounds like that. i do remember that is was on page 21. so if you got that 1935 book . you can check.. i will look around and if i find it again i will take notes.... john

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Mar 3/03 Book Study - Intellectual dishonesty, or outright lie?

by artful in

however, while reading through the wts book study information for the week of march 3/2003, i came across a historical claim regarding the wts and its announcing of 1914 as the year of christs' presence in kingly power.

answer (according to the information given in paragraph 14): jehovah has become king since christ's kingly presence began in 1914. the cry that god (via christ) had become king in 1914 has been announced to mankind by the watch tower society since 1919.

*** the watchtower, march 1, 1923, p. 67 ***.

johnny cip

one more new one to me. from the enemy booklet from 1935 . it talks about the end in a few months . i think on pg 21 will some one post that.. thanx john

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Mar 3/03 Book Study - Intellectual dishonesty, or outright lie?

by artful in

however, while reading through the wts book study information for the week of march 3/2003, i came across a historical claim regarding the wts and its announcing of 1914 as the year of christs' presence in kingly power.

answer (according to the information given in paragraph 14): jehovah has become king since christ's kingly presence began in 1914. the cry that god (via christ) had become king in 1914 has been announced to mankind by the watch tower society since 1919.

*** the watchtower, march 1, 1923, p. 67 ***.

johnny cip

hi artful: most impressed with your research. you are right about the king of the north and south. but! there is more the wt also said this about hitler and the korean war. etc. they also mixed the generation thing with all this. please tell me if you looked into the JW RESEARCH SITE . what do you think? are you aware that the wt told people not to have children and wait for armageddon even married people not to have sex it is from the devil. face the facts 1938, and i have the orignal copy. also the children book 1941 wt 3-1 37 pg 77 .. nov 1 1938 pg 323-4 etc. and yes 1978 was one of the year s of christs kingdom power. if you look harder you will find that it was 1872-73 -4 when nothing happenned it was 1878 or even 1881 . but you know my documentation is BAD. I still can't get refiners fire to see were the wt said that jw's were to be raptured in 1932. but something like this is out there i know that a lot of the things i say sound far out. but i have run into them at some point. a few more for you , look into the wt book angels and women sold in the 20's written from a demonic spritaul channel. the whole book is on the web somewhere. try free minds.com also known as selioa maybe sold by the wt in the 1890's . look for 1905-7 and 1910-12 it is on some of the long false prophecies sites. . one more ! get the book KINGDOM OF THE KULTS. has some good stuff most here never talk about. like the russell court trials and the 1881 . russell on the bridge at easter sunday to go to heaven. and has a lot of bible thoughts. you can get a lot of old wt books at ebay .com sometimes cheap. best wishes , i'm always open to learn new info .. thank you . john

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COMMENTS YOU WILL NOT HEAR AT THE 3-9-03 WT STUDY

by blondie in

comments you will not hear at the 3-9-03 wt study

february 1, 2003 edition page 8.

"remain in my word".

johnny cip

hi blondie: i've been reading your and jnat comments alot. but i can't get past the first few lines. it is so sickening reading the wt's now. i was reading a few pages of this wt , a few weeks ago while waiting for a job in my truck. what shit. i mean it totally pissed me off . i called my dad a jw and asked him if he wanted to go over a few pages. well he just hung up the phone. funny no jw's want to go into what they print with me. so i have stopped reading them . if the jw's can't back it up what's the point. they never get past the 1st or 2nd para with me. but thanx for your good work i hope it helps many. i see what you see but i'm more judgemental and look at it from a different angle. i go right for prove that the wt is god's choosen people. i like the jw personnal history articles. as they always call wt teachings from 50-100yrs. ago worship acceptable to jehovah, or doing the will of jehovah. or bible truth they suffered for. then i bring out false teachings of the time. and ask was that worship pleasing to god? THEY STAND THERE LIKE ZOMBIES. then i ask the final ? SO WHY IS THE WT TODAY PRINTING that the jw's were doing the work of god, 70 yrs. ago if what they were teaching then was blaspemy. john

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I am fighting back

by thetruthaboutjws in

hi this is my first post here.

so i should probably introduce myself.

i live in a small community i was reaised for 17 years as a witness.

johnny cip

sf ; thanx for sending me to yahoo. i finally found it . and thehy did't like me and did not last long with my questions. so i will be going there from time to time to have fun... as jcip61. as you can figure i was called all kinds of names but they all backed down when i kept the pressure on . john

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jw field serv. wash out in the rain

by johnny cip in

jw
friends

this morning ; in the rain what do i see?

from a block away it's 3 jw's holding up their idol under their umberella's .

i stop.

johnny cip

sf; i drive a truck for a living in bronx n.y.c. so i'm all over the place. i have had some good talks with jw's. and arguements. either way if the ratio is 1 in 100. might learn something. i give it a shot. if i get them to leavwe the train station and go home and give up for the day . thats good also. if they call me a lair ,the wt never printed that. i give them my phone # and tell them to call me tonight. i will give them the wt date and page. them we can go to the kh library and check.. the child molesters are a point i like to tell the sisters. glad to see the jw's run when they see you. try confronting them when you see them in fs at a train sta. or mall etc. sure you can get them to leave with a few ?s . what i like is sometimes while working the jw's on the street. some christian will stop and beat them up from another angle. it is like a tag team lol. i haven't yahooed yet i will try to find it. or you can give me the link. i will tag team them with you. john

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Turning Over A Rock

by Francois in

regarding the thread below which deals with the court allowing the two sisters to continue with their suit against the wtbts; and all the other threads dealing with the failure of "god's organization" to provide the minimum care and concern for its most helpless members; and all the other threads dealing with false prophecy, doctrinal flip-flops & theological u-turns, conflicting teachings and all the cognitive dissonance generated by this phoney-baloney cult does it strike you that this is exactly like turning over a rock to reveal a nest of maggots!.

for a hundred years and more, the wtbts did what it did to its followers in secret, in the dark, in little hidden meeting rooms, where elders asked sisters what kind of underwear they were wearing just before brother so-and-so slid them off her hips, salacious bastards all.

but, as we have it from the scriptures, sinners may do what they do in the dark, but god will reveal all.

johnny cip

Mommy i don't like maggot's. shut up and eat you spritual food at the proper time, by the way it's maggots light, taste better and less fulling . than maggots old light. but mommy maggot's old light made me sick. shut up and eat this is meat in due season , we been waiting all year for this. by the way you had small pox before , there was nothing wrong with your maggot's look at mommy eat . yum yum. now close your EYES and eat up!!! but mommy these maggot's look and smell like mAggot's old light we had last year, plus now they are all dead, with sugar on top. to cover up the stench. shut up these are aged maggot's and took years to cure. son you don't know what is good food. shut up and eat!!! one day you will aquire a taste of this crap. till then shut up and let you mother worry about the food you eat....